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 From:  "Pat Ellison" <pat at zbit dot net>
 To:  "Tomas Florian" <tflorian at telus dot net>, <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Freeze with 47 MB RAM?... not enough?
 Date:  Wed, 18 Aug 2004 16:59:38 -0400
Had the same problem..

At least it sounds the same..
*	Make sure that you don't have the BIOS/CMOS
	"PNP OS Installed" =Yes
	Set it to NO
*	BIOS/CMOS, make sure that if your using PCI Cards
	that the CMOS allows enough IRQs to the PCI types
	and not all set to ISA Legacy. Just the opposite
	if your usng ISA cards, make sure thay are not
	all set for PCI.
*	Try the Setting (If your bios has it) to clear
	"Extented CMOS" or "Reset extended settings"
	mand I forgot what it's called in my machine.

I had to PCI Realteks in my machine and I was finding
the machine Locked up about every 24 hours. This is
now a dead issue after the above fix.

Man I hope it helps..

-----Original Message-----
From: Tomas Florian [mailto:tflorian at telus dot net]
Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 5:25 AM
To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: [m0n0wall] Freeze with 47 MB RAM?... not enough?


I'm running the pc-ide version of monowall on an old P120 machine.  The
machine locks up approximately every 30 minutes especially whenever I try to
edit my configuration.  I have read that monowall requires at least 64 MB
ram (which I have not met) but I'm trying to figure out if that is really my

The type of freeze I experience lock doesn't just kick me off the web
interface but also locks me out of the text console.  If this was a normal
FreeBSD box I would conclude that it has hardware reliability problems.   Is
this normal when I run out of ram?  Or should I expect to get some "nice"
error message or even hope of the system continuing to respond to my key
presses - at least at the console?

I suspect I might have hardware problem on my hands, but I just want to
confirm that because if my hardware is fine and I really need 64 mb then
that's what I'll do.

The type of configuration I use is relatively simple so I thought I would
squeak by the min requirements with 47 mb:
5 ipfw rules
4 nat rules
1 pptp user
Simple traffic shaper

Here is my top mem line (19M Free seems fine to me . is it?)
Mem: 5868K Active, 3992K Inact, 4204K Wired, 4K Cache, 4368K Buf, 19M Free

Anyone running a machine with less than 64 MB?  Does it work?  How much is
the real minimum if I'm not doing anything fancy? 32 MB?  And how can I tell
if I have enough RAM?  From top "free mem" value?

Thank you very much,

Tomas Florian