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 From:  "James W. McKeand" <james at mckeand dot biz>
 To:  "'David Kitchens'" <spider at webweaver dot com>
 Cc:  <m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch>
 Subject:  RE: [m0n0wall] Direct TV
 Date:  Wed, 25 Aug 2004 11:28:09 -0400
I don't like ICS either. I just had a thought, if you bridge the interfaces
- both interfaces use the same IP (10.x.x.x). This is aggravated by the fact
that the DHCP on the DLink will still be giving out itself as the gateway...
On a different subnet (192.168.x.x) If change the Dlink's IP to 10.x.x.x
subnet and set a static default route to the PC with the USB/DTV. Thus the
other PC's will be able to access the internet via PC with the USB DTV
connection. You could test this by statically set the IP on one of the
wireless PC, using the bridged PC as the gateway. But, can the DLink handle
the default route? Can the DTV device handle multiple PCs or is expecting
only one PC?

The big question in my mind is will m0n0 see a USB device on a 4801? I think
the posts I had read was a PC image using a USB/Ethernet adaptor - I have
not been able to find them...

Good luck - you should have fun with this one...

James W. McKeand

-----Original Message-----
From: David Kitchens [mailto:spider at webweaver dot com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:57 AM
To: 'James W. McKeand'; m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Direct TV

I was trying to avoid ICS at all costs but I guess that would be an option
if nothing else. I must have had brain fade when there to not remember that
but I've never liked it much. I tried bridging but that didn't work. Now the
question is can a 4801 use the USB as a WAN port? Another client has a 4801
and I don't remember it coming up in the setup menu as a valid interface.
Hmm, a USB/ethernet adaptor would be nice..., google here I come...


> -----Original Message-----
> From: James W. McKeand [mailto:james at mckeand dot biz]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 9:22 AM
> To: 'David Kitchens'
> Cc: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: RE: [m0n0wall] Direct TV
> Did you try Internet Connection Sharing or did you bridge the network 
> connections?
> If you "share" the DTV connection the other interface would get the 
> address
> and will be come a simple DHCP server (MS calls it the 
> DHCP Address Allocator Service) that gives out its self as the gateway 
> (I think it also acts as a simple DNS forwarder). On the DLink:
> 1) turn off the DHCP - it is giving out its self as the gateway.
> 2) change the IP address - I bet it is trying to use .1
> The above would be the Microsoft answer... As for an answer for 
> m0n0...
> 1) the Soekris 4501 does not have a USB port, but the 4801 does...
> 2) I am not sure m0n0 can use the USB for a network connection - I 
> think I saw a post about someone using a USB to Ethernet adaptor, but 
> I'm not sure.
> _________________________________
> James W. McKeand
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Kitchens [mailto:spider at webweaver dot com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 2:18 AM
> To: m0n0wall at lists dot m0n0 dot ch
> Subject: [m0n0wall] Direct TV
> Hi all,
> I was at a clients place today and ran into something I've not done 
> before.
> He has a Direct TV net connection that is connected to his XP box via 
> USB, he previously had a cable connection and he used a DLink Cable 
> router with wireless AP. With the Direct TV now, his network is not 
> able to get to the internet. He has 3 PC's all with wireless NIC's and 
> the one with the USB connection also has a standard NIC which is 
> connected to the DLink for management. All PC's get dhcp from the 
> dlink but I can't change the gateway on it so the others can get to 
> the web. The DTV connection uses a static IP of 10.x.x.x and the dlink 
> serves up 192.168.x.x IP's. I tried using XP's bridging ability to 
> connect the WAN and wireless networks with no luck.
> I can hear the question now, what does this have to do with monowall? 
> What I would like to do is to replace the dlink with a Soekris 4501 
> with a Netgate WIC and use monowall. My question is has anyone used a 
> Direct TV web connection with monowall and how would I get the USB 
> connection to feed the WAN? There is no RJ-45 socket on the DTV unit. 
> I don't really want to setup an entire computer for the monowall but 
> if thats the only way I guess I could.
> Dave

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